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Sat Jan 14, 2006, 7:57 PM
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yeah, after answering questions like "May I plllleaaase use your emotes on my site" and "WHAT PROGRAM DO YOU USE" a couple hundred times I thought it'd be easier to write a journal thoroughly answering common questions I get asked on this site.

if you've been linked here by me, the question you asked is definitely answered in this journal

heheh, zikes helped me get the links to work :]

Answers about emotes in general
A1 When I type a title of an emote deviation the emote doesn't come up. Why?
A2 How do you make an emoticon?
A3 If I want to suggest an emote deviation as a DD, which admin do I ask?
A4 What programs are the best for making emoticons?

Darkmoon-specific answers
B1 can I use your emotes on my site?
B2 ok...can I use your other emotes on my site?
B3 What program do you use to make your emoticons?
B4 Do you take requests?
B5 Do you take commissions?
B6 Will you give me specific help on with making my emote? (and/or help with problems I can't figure out)
B7 Will you give me an in-depth critique on my emote?
B8 Can I make major/minor edits to one of your emotes and enter it, giving you credit as the original artist?

Stuff about the "fabulous" darkmoon that no one cares about, but I'm answering anyways out of boredom. Aka, Miscellaneous
C1 Who are you?
C2 I tried messaging you on the AIM name you posted but the person said they were Sum140. what's up with that?
C3 what's your friend code on Animal Crossing DS?



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ANSWERS ABOUT EMOTES IN GENERAL

A1 When I type a title of an emote deviation in colons :: the emote doesn't come up. Why?
This is because it hasn't been added to the official emoticon legend. The only way an emote works on the main site is by being added to the legend by an admin (at this point, it would be rocksicle), though you can use emotes in dAmn by using the thumbnail.

A2 How do you make an emoticon?
There are several ways, but mostly it just involves making a small circle with eyes and saving it as a gif. Oh? You want yours to look professional? Then I suggest you look at one of the several emote tutorials people have made on this site. Here's a list of a few (if you know of any others I can add to this list please link to it in a comment!)
- Mine is Emote Tutorial by darkmoon3636. I might make a better one in the distant future. (edit: here it is: Emoticon Tutorial : bases by darkmoon3636 )
- by camelhijackation
- Emoticon Tutorials - Animation by emoticons by emoticons
- Ultimate Emote Tutorial - P1 by mattdanna by mattdanna
- _Blinking.Emot.Tutorial by Synaesthesia- by Synaesthesia-

A3 If I want to suggest an emote deviation as a DD, which admin do I ask?
That would be our very own icon gallery director, rocksicle. He seems to like emotes with great pixel art, short animations that stick to the point, and innovative ideas.

A4 What programs are the best for making emoticons?
Any program that can make a gif animation will work fine. Programs like MX fireworks, jasc animation shop, and other ones of that type are crowd favourites. Personally, I'd stick to a program designed specifically for .gifs, (ruling out ones like Fireworks) MY favorite is Ulead Gif Animator 5. You can download a 15 trial of the program here.

DARKMOON-SPECIFIC ANSWERS

B1 can I use your emotes on my site?
Yes, you can use the general emote pack I made for free use: Emote Pack 2 by darkmoon3636
Please read the guidlines on the description or in the readme file before using :]

B2 ok...can I use your other emotes on my site?
Gah, I have never once been able to turn down someone who asks to use my emotes D: You guys just ask too politely, it'd be mean to say no.
Ok, if you want to add them to the site (so they come up when you type codes) it must be either a personal site, a non-commerical forum, and not be promoting racism/sexism/other-bad-isms. ALSO, you MUST link to the site/forum in THIS JOURNAL. This is just to help me keep track of things :D

Now, if you want to use the emote in a forum post in a non-dA site, in a IM, or anywhere else where it's not actually integrated into the site, go ahead, don't bother with links or any of that.

B3 What program do you use to make your emoticons?
All of them are made using Ulead Gif Animator 5. You can download a 15 trial of the program here. The program is nice for emotes because it only has basic tools for pixel art, and I've just been using it forever and don't have the need for something with fancier effects. I think it works fantastic, some people agree, some people don't like it because of the way it's set up.

B4 Do you take requests?
Sigh...Yes, but there's a very small chance I'll use them. In last year I only made 3 or 4 emotes that were requested. Why? Not because there's anything wrong with your idea, but just because I don't think it'll go well with my personal style. I'm very picky about what I do, which is why some of my emotes surround such strange ideas, like shadow puppets, jumping into boxes, picking flowers, etc. When I think of the idea, even if it's not an original one, it makes the emote >mine<. When I take requests I usually don't end up liking the emote for whatever reason, it's probably some subconscience ego thing.

So with that being said, ask away :]

B5 Do you take comissions?
Yup! I've only had a few people ask this, but if you do, I'll most likely make what you want, for a price.
(3/4/06 -edit with more specific info)
Prices for emotes as follows:

Static
will be discussed (in other words, can't decide right now)
emotes less than 25 frames
$5 for the first, then $3 for each additional emote
Emotes 25-70 frames
$10 for the first, $5 for each additional
emotes 71 or more frames
$20 for the first $8 for each additional

Mixed frame amounts:
The "first" price (the 5, 10, 25) applies to the emote with the highest number of frames, then others cost the additional price according to their complexity. Example, one 71+ framed emote ($20) and five 10 framed ($3 times 5) would cost $35

B6 Will you give me specific help on with making my emote? (and/or help with problems I can't figure out)
Sure! Ask here, in AIM (my real name is supernork36), or in a note. Even in dAmn, if you can catch me in there.

B7 Will you give me an in-depth critique on my emote?
THOSE WHO ARE FAINT OF EGO HEART BEWARE. If you ask for an "indepth critique", that's what I'll give. I'll inform you of every little problem, as insignificant as it seems. I only suggest asking me this if you're somewhat good at emotes, or you'll probably find yourself redoing the entire thing. Just keep in mind that critiques are my opinions, and that it doesn't mean that that's the absolute best thing to do. Another emote artist might tell you something completely different, you have to decide if my advice is good or not.

B8 Can I make major/minor edits to one of your emotes and enter it, giving you credit as the original artist?
NO. NO. NO. My emotes are mine, and the absolute worst thing you can do is edit it, because you're making part of it yours. I've never liked sharing, especially when it comes to art. The only way there will be my art and yours combined is if we're doing a pre-arranged collaboration. No asking to edit one of my existing emotes in any way, even if you're making it better.

MISCELLENEOUS (that's spelt wrong)

C1 Who are you?
I'm Emily, who's 16, and goes to highschool, and isn't very interesting. Like a lot of people who go online a lot tend to find out, the more introverted you are, the better you "get" the internet and all it's glory. Well, I understand it pretty effing well, if that speaks about how I am offline. I suppose I have some of those cliche goth characteristics of liking to be alone, sit in the corner, but loves attention at the same time. Most of this attention is attained by doing well in school, so I'm pretty bitchy to everyone who tries talking to me while I'm doing work (or sleeping in class. I count that as work though).

My interests are my religion (Christianity), dA (lawlz), reading fantasy (suggest some titles ;) ), school (when it's not too overwelming), and keeping fish (I have 4 aquariums :dance: )

C2 I tried messaging you on the AIM name you posted but the person said they were Sum140. what's up with that?
HAHA. That's because my good friend sieiw thought it'd be funny to IM prank me, and I thought it wasn't very funny at all. Well, she failed at freaking me out, but pissed me off slightly, so I thought it'd be funny to have people IM her that are looking for someone else.

That and, you people are fricking annoying. People I don't know start asking me "wuts up" when I'm trying to write long essays on interesting topics such as the multiple causation of the French Revolution. I try to avoid instant messengers as much as possible as it is, please only IM me if I actually talk to you a lot on this site and "know" you somewhat, or if you need help with something (you'll find my sn in the answer about asking for help, B6)

C3 What's your friend code on Animal Crossing DS?
YA RLY, that game is fun. I usually play when I get home from school, 3-4pm Eastern time.

Friend code: 3393-6471-4007
Town: Egypt
Name: Dove

I seem to have run out of things to say....







All animations made using Ulead GIF Animator
most of my emotes are not on the official list, thus they cannot be used on the site (other than thumbs) so putting :catfight: as a comment with a is extremely pointless and annoying.
Yes, I will take requests for emotes, but I won't always use your ideas
if you request an emote of a cartoon character, the answer is no.
you smell like cheese...can I lick you?







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  • Watching: King Kong
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:iconwinxhelina:
Winxhelina Featured By Owner May 20, 2012  Hobbyist Filmographer
May I use them in MSN?
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gussie398 Featured By Owner Nov 21, 2011
When I click on the link to the program you use, it is not the said program. It is something like Paintshop Pro. Is that the same thing? Also, can you use Gimp? Because that is what I used to make my avatar.
Thanks!
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Ashley-Q Featured By Owner Apr 20, 2010  Hobbyist Digital Artist
Just wanted to let you know that I'm using some of your awesome emotes on my RPG forum: [link]

Thanks so much for sharing them with us! :)
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Ashley-Q Featured By Owner Apr 20, 2010  Hobbyist Digital Artist
Not sure how that doubled on me. Sorry 'bout that!
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:iconashley-q:
Ashley-Q Featured By Owner Apr 20, 2010  Hobbyist Digital Artist
Just wanted to let you know that I'm using some of your awesome emotes on my RPG forum: [link]

Thanks so much for sharing them with us! :)
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Pye1101 Featured By Owner Jun 21, 2008
thanks:D
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:iconhumbugle:
humbugle Featured By Owner Jun 4, 2008
Hi! just to let you know we've used a couple of emotes (or will have done in the next few days) on this site...

[link]

non commercial and a little note that they're your work will be given :D it's just for the shoutbox

Beautiful work, thankyou so much for sharing! :love:
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:iconlioness-178:
LiOneSS-178 Featured By Owner May 13, 2008
Hereby i ask you for permission to use your emotes on my forum:
[link]
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:icondarkmoon3636:
darkmoon3636 Featured By Owner May 13, 2008
Go right ahead :D
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:iconlioness-178:
LiOneSS-178 Featured By Owner May 13, 2008
thanks a lot :)
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esotericsean Featured By Owner Nov 24, 2007  Professional Filmographer
Hey, I asked you a long long time ago about using your emotes on my forum, but I was lazy and never actually installed them until now. Hope it's still okay!

You can see them here: [link]
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:icondarkmoon3636:
darkmoon3636 Featured By Owner Nov 24, 2007
yeah that's fine
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:iconesotericsean:
esotericsean Featured By Owner Nov 24, 2007  Professional Filmographer
Thanks! :D
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:iconellarin:
ellarin Featured By Owner Sep 29, 2007
Hey, I suggested your forcehug emoticon on http:\\forums.animes.bg and I'm linking as you asked ^^
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:iconreaper-poring:
reaper-poring Featured By Owner Jul 20, 2007
I used most of your emotes on my forum. Heres the list.

If you want me to remove them, I'll do it right away :)
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:iconreaper-poring:
reaper-poring Featured By Owner Jul 20, 2007
Woah html fail. Heres the forum: [link] And heres the list: [link]
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:iconrebelfemme:
rebelfemme Featured By Owner May 24, 2007
Thankyou for being so kind! I've downloaded the pack, but only to study the facial expression. I like to create my own stuff :)

You are talented at these things :D I hope to get as good as you.
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elatariel Featured By Owner Apr 8, 2007
Hiya! :D I find your emoticons really cute. Great job! I was just wondering if I could use [link] [link] [link] and [link] over at IMB with proper credit? :)
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darkmoon3636 Featured By Owner Apr 8, 2007
Sure
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un17 Featured By Owner Oct 18, 2006
hello, I'm using your Tard Emotes in my forum for my friends and I.

[link]

D: If there are any problems WHATSOEVER please let me know, and I will remove them. ^^; ty <3
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Kael-Seleill-Nulaad Featured By Owner Oct 14, 2006
I'm using some of your emoticons for a spanish art forum: [link]

The list of featured emoticons is in:
[link]
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:iconlindalemela:
lindalemela Featured By Owner Aug 19, 2006
We'd like to use your emotes on our forum at [link] It's a roleplaying site...and we wanted some fun stuff for our emotes because the free forum site doesn't offer anything good...lol *hugs* The emotes would be in a forum topic with credit back to your dA site. This post is wonderful for information...thank you!
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darkmoon3636 Featured By Owner Aug 19, 2006
That's cool :D Uh, do you know how to add custom emotes to a board like that? I had to start one for school but I can't figure out how to change the emotes D:
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:iconlindalemela:
lindalemela Featured By Owner Aug 20, 2006
Thank you thank you! :) Is it a forumer board? Because I'm still trying to figure that one out...lol Right now my plan is just to upload them to my own server and host them with image links :P They have it so you zip up smilies in a .pak file, and then upload them...somewhere. It's the somewhere that I have yet to work out. There is a work around put in place now...you can set it up that the emote symbol becomes a filtered word...you just replace it with the link for the pic: [link] Course, then you'd do what I'd planned and have a topic with the codes for the emotes so everyone could see them...because it wouldn't pop up in the smily list.

For ezboard, all you have to do is upload the pic into the smilie list and give it a code and it'll show up. But their boards are unreliable and you have to make sure you make personal backups.....because they lose everything...even when you're a paying member...*sigh* Other thing you could do is start a forum topic with the links for the images...so they'd have to copy paste the image url in the post in order for it to come up. Less efficient than the word filter, but it still works :)

*hugs* Your emotes are teh awesome!
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darkmoon3636 Featured By Owner Aug 20, 2006
Oh, the word filter idea is good :D thank you
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:iconlindalemela:
lindalemela Featured By Owner Aug 20, 2006
^_^ you ish welcome...thank you again for letting us use some! :D
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ThePpeGFX Featured By Owner Aug 19, 2006  Professional Traditional Artist
You say that Fireworks can be ruled out because it isn't made for GIFs. Simply not true, my friend! I find it infinitely better for GIF animations than the Jasc and Ulead products. As far as I'm aware, you cannot dynamicly edit objects in Jasc or Ulead like you can in Fireworks and this means the whole process is much quicker done via Fireworks.

I find it hard to understand why you'd think Fireworks wasn't as good as the other programs, unless you're factoring in the program's price. Then again, in this day and age, there are alternative sources to eliminate that factor.

I wouldn't mind a critique from you on an emoticon of mine. You seem to be Queen of that smiles, haha. You can find it here: [link]

Thanks :)
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SmokeyDuck Featured By Owner Aug 15, 2006  Hobbyist Photographer
Question: how do you put thumnails in comments? I don't think anyone's ask this, so I will. BTW I adore your work. :love:
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:icondarkmoon3636:
darkmoon3636 Featured By Owner Aug 15, 2006
you can't use them in comments; only journals and chat. They wanted to avoid spamming ;)
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SmokeyDuck Featured By Owner Aug 19, 2006  Hobbyist Photographer
thanks. :)
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mariepb Featured By Owner Aug 7, 2006
I just wanna say that I really love your emotes! They're so cute :D And I really enjoyed learning from your tutorials :P

Also, the really really bestest fantasy book that I've ever read is Wizard's First Rule by Terry Goodkind. It's the first in a series of eight or so, that I havent gotten around to reading. :dohtwo: I highly recommend it! :)
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Fluid04 Featured By Owner Aug 1, 2006
[link]

Im gonna use your tardmots :P
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:iconcrystalstargazer:
crystalstargazer Featured By Owner Jul 31, 2006
hiya! my friend vampire-penguin and i were thinking about emotes, and well, is it possible if you could make us one please? if you can, can you note me please! thankyou!
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EvieFae Featured By Owner Jul 28, 2006
Hi there!

Love your emotes, so adding a few to the [link] forums. We're totally non-commercial, and the credit for your icons will be in the description. Thanks so much for sharing your lovely work with the world. <3

Evie
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:icondarkmoon3636:
darkmoon3636 Featured By Owner Jul 28, 2006
No problem :) glad you enjoy them!
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:iconkirby:
kirby Featured By Owner Jul 25, 2006
you actually like Ulead GIf Animator? I had many problems with that program, performance to be one of them, but mostly I used that program to convert movie clips to GIf... maybe thats not its strong point..

also the gifs would come out sooooo slow




have you used imageready at all? I am using that for whatever, and whenever the gif has transparent background I always get this white stuff in the final product, its frustrating... :paranoid:

maybe ill just get ulead again and try it for emotes .... :love: :glomp:
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mariepb Featured By Owner Aug 7, 2006
:wave: Hello! I was recently trying out making some emoticons, and I only have photoshop/imageready.. And it took me a while to figure out how to get the white out too. :aww: So if you havent figured it out yet, heres what I did. I ended up doing this when I was all done, but you could probaby do it before you start too. I made a new layer underneath everything, erased all the white, and made the background invisible. It might work just to make the background invisible too, without the extra layer, but I didn't try that. So, I hope that works for you! :) (Oh and btw, since I did it when i was all done, I had to go through every frame and make sure the background layer was turned off. So it's probably a better idea to do it from the start. Oh, and you'll know it's transparent when you get the checkered background to show up. :) )
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:iconkirby:
kirby Featured By Owner Aug 7, 2006
you might have wanted to click reply on one of her posts :ninja:
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:iconmariepb:
mariepb Featured By Owner Aug 7, 2006
Nu uh, you said in your post you were having problems.... :paranoid: no? ^^;
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:iconkirby:
kirby Featured By Owner Aug 7, 2006
oh I see what your answer was targetted to lol, thanks, I forgot I asked this question lol

thank you, I will keep that in mind, dont see why adobe cant just fix this problem lol its rally annoying
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:iconmariepb:
mariepb Featured By Owner Aug 7, 2006
lol :P Or, I also just figured out, when you first make the image, change the background from white or whatever to transparent. :aww:
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darkmoon3636 Featured By Owner Jul 25, 2006
No idea about illustrator. The reason I like ulead is because it's the animator I learnt to animate with ;) after using a program for two and a half years, you tend to be attached. I've tried fireworks before and hated the way it handled objects/layers :bleh:

I don't think it was made to handle videoclips that well though, nor is any "gif" animator, since you're converting it from avi, you're gonna lose quality.
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A-Light-in-the-Dark Featured By Owner Jul 24, 2006
Wow. Clever journal.
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sworninnocence Featured By Owner Jul 17, 2006
Hehe, you might want to check out George R.R. Martin's books (A Game of Thrones, A Clash of Kings, A Storm of Swords, and A Feast of/for Crows). Unless you already have... XD

I absolutely [adore] your emoticons! I especially like the Tardmote set... XD Maybe cause I'm a tard myself? :3

Anyways, I'm glad you put this up, because I was like "Can I use her emoticons? :?" And then here was the FAQ. XD I kinda of missed the big ol' button up there... XD
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darkmoon3636 Featured By Owner Jul 17, 2006
hmm, I'll add him to my list of authors to check out :D
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Shadowmanpph Featured By Owner Jul 17, 2006
Could you help me out?

I have no idea how to put up pics on dev art.

What tags do I use?

BB or html?
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:icondarkmoon3636:
darkmoon3636 Featured By Owner Jul 17, 2006
da uses html, but you can only use image tags in your journal if you have a site subscription.
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:icontinkilla:
tinkilla Featured By Owner Jul 16, 2006
You can lick me. But the smell is decieving. If anything i taste of asbestos.
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:iconlauraest:
Lauraest Featured By Owner Jul 16, 2006
You're very talented. I love your emotes. Really nice work :handshake:
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eikaj Featured By Owner Jul 16, 2006
i don't usually read journals. but i like your emote, and i was curious. hehe

anyways, i really have nothign to say, other than i love your emotes. and a fantasy book i woulf suggest reading is "the great book of Amber" by roger zelazny
but it's all 10 of the books together.
the first is called "nine princes in amber"
amazing book
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